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the other factor to consider is that none of the searches return pricing info, so the buyer would have to check each site to find out that someone is offering images at lower prices. the other thing is that few sites have very similar images, so direct comparisons for price are going to be infrequent
right, something happened to the network reports but i’m working to get them back onlne. i’m traveling the next 3 weeks, so it might take a bit longer than usual.
the global searches update automatically, but not instantly, so if you make changes they’ll show up.
searches on your own site, though should show up right away, but sometimes a cached search might be used — again, that will clear itself automatically
I’ve long had accounts on linked in and G+ but haven’t used them very much (same for fb & twit); but i’ll help out where I can
I’ve left several fb posts where a lot of my connections are lapsed lucky oliver photographers, but haven’t had any direct replies
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
@cascoly wrote:
@christine wrote:
I think that the chosen ten will appear regardless if they have images that match the keyword searched on your site
If you have included ajt’s strawberry global search then you will get everyone who has matching images in that row
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right, if you include sym.info in your network, then you are effectively including the entire network — promoted keywords won’t matter then, since those sites will already have been displayed
I am trying to balance staying in the network and providing buyers a choice, with making sales. I am trying to balance design and keeping buyers on my site without having a ton of links distracting them elsewhere. I am going to try a link with the global network only. If i am understanding you correctly, in essence i am linked to everyone then. I am ok with that.
one advantage of using the .info site as your ‘network’ is that the results will be displayed in just 1 section, rather than multiple separate sites
@christine wrote:
I think that the chosen ten will appear regardless if they have images that match the keyword searched on your site
If you have included ajt’s strawberry global search then you will get everyone who has matching images in that row
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right, if you include sym.info in your network, then you are effectively including the entire network — promoted keywords won’t matter then, since those sites will already have been displayed
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
@cascoly wrote:
deleting your promoted keywords won’t have any effect on what gets displayed on your site — it just means your images won’t show up for searches on OTHER sites
what search terms are producing the results you mention? there are only a few keywords promoted by more than 4 or 5 people — and those are common words such as ‘dog’,’christmas’, ‘travel’, ‘photo’ and’ illustration’
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I was told that promoted keywords were causing a bunch of people not in my network to show results on my search page. I was under the impression that the only search results that would show on my site’s page, after someone performed a search, was images from network members that had matching keywords. If you add more promoted keywords, you will be increasing the chances of even more people showing up in a search on my site.
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If they don’t contribute a lot, then there should be no harm to my site if they aren’t included. I haven’t really ever seen a detailed explanation of exactly what they are doing, and who can benefit from them or why they are even there. Especially if they don’t contribute a lot.I purposely used pretty generic words like people, men, women, horse, etc. to do my searches. The point is, more and more people are showing up on my site, as though they are in my network. What is the point of only being able to choose 10 fellow network members if promoted keywords are eventually going to allow just about everyone in the network to show up on my site if they have a matching keyword? I think I am missing something somewhere.
as i said – there are only a FEW keywords that are promoted by more than 4 or 5 of our 100 members – unfortunately, you chose ‘christmas’ which is promoted by abot 10 people, so a search will pull in some of those
3 important points
1. in response to your initial post – what you list in YOUR promoted keywords has NO effect on what searches produce on your site – so not using any promoted keywords won’t fix the overload you were describing
2. generic searches arent very useful for anyone — few users will be searching for ‘boy’ or ‘illustration’
3. right now, promoted keywords cover only a tiny portion of the range of actual keywords avaiable, so we should be INCRFEASING the number f promoted keywords. the goal of symbiostock is to provide users with as wide a selectio as possible. sometimes that means traffic on site X will go to site Y, but the reverse is also true. it’s not a zero sum game, and we all benefit when we keep buyers in the network. the only way to avoid this is to opt out of the network@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
Adding more promoted keywords seems to increase the number of search results that appear on my site search from members outside of my network. It wasnt so bad when there were twenty of us, but now that there are over 100 sites, those results from a search on my site are overshadowing my own sites results. As the number of sites in the network increases, the longer that page is going to get. Which also increases the likelihood of buyers leaving my site. Not good.
I have deleted my promoted keywords for now. If it causes other consequences, i will consider putting them back in.deleting your promoted keywords won’t have any effect on what gets displayed on your site — it just means your images won’t show up for searches on OTHER sites
what search terms are producing the results you mention? there are only a few keywords promoted by more than 4 or 5 people — and those are common words such as ‘dog’,’christmas’, ‘travel’, ‘photo’ and’ illustration’
@leo wrote:
Want to move it up to 40 instead of 20??? Or maybe 30?
at least 40 — we’ll have a better handle on this when we can track the difference between regular networked searches & promoted keywords
@leo wrote:
My problem is that if I was a penguin I would not want to be excluded from the party. I’m kinda stuck on that.
ok! include the option to include subcategories when listing a category
something happened in the last updates, and parsing the symbiocard networks started messing up. I wasn’t able to get it fixed before leaving town, so removed the links temporarily. i’ll get it working again as soon as I can
steve
just sounds like a lot of work — as you say — ‘JUST LIKE AN AGENCY’; guess what’s needed is an entrepreneur who doesn’t have their own portfolio to promote. right now sym isn’t set up to allow multiple submitters who only have permissions for specific images, and there’s nothing connecting images to submitters, so these are extra levels of complexity that need to be added and maintained.
@christine wrote:
I *think* the subcategories travel right to the bottom of this list when only the upper ones are selected so you have to scroll down to find them.
thanks, I issed that — I’ve got a LOT of categories so didn’t scroll all the way down. scratch one feature request!
@redneck wrote:
Set up your own “Collections” category and include only the title/main images. You can also add this category to your navigation menu. See http://picturebreeze.com/stock/photos/image-type/collections-images/ .
You should make a collection title image look like a collection and not like a single image (make a simple collage). I use http://picmonkey.com to create a collage within 2 minutes.
yes, I’ve set up a separate collections heading from my main page
picmonkey is a solution, but the original images for my collections are distributed among my archives of over 20,000 images, so it’s not quite that simple (but that’s my problem)
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the list I gave wasn’t prioritized — these would be low level. the highest priority for collections would be having the title image immediately available when you click on collection’ under the images section; and having a link to the collection automatically available on all the individual items in the collections
@christine wrote:
Why will the searches not find promoted keywords if they are used multiple times – can you give some examples ?
sorry if I was unclear — repeats are no problem, right now there are a TOTAL of 1300 promoted keywords across all 100+ sites, and if we combine duplicates it would be many fewer — so only about 500 or so keywords are actually being promoted. thus the chance is small that any particular search will use a promoted keyword. thus, the promoted keyword feature isn’t going to be used most of the time. in addition, most of the promoted keywords now used are very generic – like ‘photo’, ‘stock’, etc which isn’t very helpful to users either.
i’d propose expanding the promoted keywords to 50 or more to encourage people to use more specific keywords — eg ‘turkey’ and ‘india’ rather than travel. if the promoted keyword list is kept as a separate table (I do that and thn that ajt also does), then the extended search will be fast
[nudging leo] this is something that can be tracked once we get the search logging installed
steve
